CDC guidelines -- Death Certificates
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Some are saying this whole deal is about pushing vaccines...
More people who are questioning, doing their own research and thinking for themselves instead of letting big corporations/ (so- called?) philanthropists think for them and telling them what is necessary for them to do.
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CDC guidelines for death by CV say:
"In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID cannot be made but is suspected or likely (e.g. the circumstances are compelling with a reasonable degree of certainty) it is acceptable to report COVID-19 on a death certificate as 'probable' or 'presumed.'" CDC's death certificate manual tells physicians to focus on "precision and specificity," but many say coronavirus death certification guidance runs completely counter to that axiom.
Under the CDC guidelines, a patient who died after being hit by a bus and tested positive for coronavirus would be listed as having presumed to have died from the virus regardless of whatever damage was caused by the bus--t doesn't make any sense.
Dr. Anthony Fauci's response to questions about the potential for the number of coronavirus deaths being "padded," mentions "conspiracy theories"-- which many say is simple name- calling, which allows the avoiding of addressing any facts at all. Medicine and the money connection may be key here.
Never before have doctors been told to notate 'influenza" as cause of death-- they might write 'respiratory arrest' to be the top line, and the underlying cause of this disease would be pneumonia. (A very common illness.) They” might well put emphysema or congestive heart failure, but... never put influenza down as the underlying cause of death and yet that’s what we are being asked to do here."
Payouts?
Right now Medicare has determined that if you have a COVID-19 admission to the hospital they pay $13,000. If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator, they get $39,000; three times as much. – So hospitals get a pretty chunk of that, that they won’t be getting if its not listed as COVID 19.
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CDC Website
Read the actual CDC website. It's not just about fiddling with the death certificate. Look at the case and death counts. Last week the CDC changed the way they determine those counts. Now they are adding "probable" cases and deaths by means of using "epidemiological" and "clinical" evidence, but WITHOUT an actual positive covid test. Read that again. NO positive covid test. It's all there right on their website under "about this data." Is this scientific? One thing for sure is it creates doubt as to the actual numbers. We saw a spike last week right after the CDC changed its reporting manner. Now how do we know whether the increasing numbers are actually tested positive or not? One thing this does is delay states getting to the gate for reopening under Phase One.
If it’s highly suspected you can list it. This is why stats will include margin of error. These tests were taking almost a week to come back, or sometimes patients died before they could be tested. Families can’t collect bodies unless form is filled out, they typically want them in 24 hours.
Why doesn’t CDC base its seasonal flu mortality estimates only on death certificates that specifically list influenza?
From cdc website:
Seasonal influenza may lead to death from other causes, such as pneumonia, congestive heart failure, or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. It has been recognized for many years that influenza is under-reported on death certificates and patients aren’t always tested for seasonal influenza infection, particularly the elderly who are at greatest risk of seasonal influenza complications and death.
Some deaths – particularly among the elderly – are associated with secondary complications of influenza (including bacterial pneumonia). Influenza virus infection may not be identified in many instances because influenza virus is only detectable for a short period of time and/or many people don’t seek medical care until after the first few days of acute illness. For these and other reasons, statistical modeling strategies have been used to estimate seasonal flu-related deaths for many decades. Only counting deaths where influenza was included on a death certificate would be a gross underestimation of seasonal influenza’s true impact.
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So, In a nation of 345 million, how many people might die on any given day had not there been a today's COVID conditions, now called pandemic. Approximately the same amount of deaths, it seems to eb…
1 Comment : This article is misleading, and it erodes trust. There were likely cases missed in the beginning when we were only supposed to test people who got back from China or had a sick contact. The data is accurate enough to be actionable.
Is eroding trust of money motivated industries bad? Say what?
I think this is a hard time, but we need to stick together I agree.
Lets all agree to disagree and love each other anyway right where we are-- otherwise there is no unity.
"In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID cannot be made but is suspected or likely (e.g. the circumstances are compelling with a reasonable degree of certainty) it is acceptable to report COVID-19 on a death certificate as 'probable' or 'presumed.'" CDC's death certificate manual tells physicians to focus on "precision and specificity," but many say coronavirus death certification guidance runs completely counter to that axiom.
Under the CDC guidelines, a patient who died after being hit by a bus and tested positive for coronavirus would be listed as having presumed to have died from the virus regardless of whatever damage was caused by the bus--t doesn't make any sense.
Dr. Anthony Fauci's response to questions about the potential for the number of coronavirus deaths being "padded," mentions "conspiracy theories"-- which many say is simple name- calling, which allows the avoiding of addressing any facts at all. Medicine and the money connection may be key here.
Never before have doctors been told to notate 'influenza" as cause of death-- they might write 'respiratory arrest' to be the top line, and the underlying cause of this disease would be pneumonia. (A very common illness.) They” might well put emphysema or congestive heart failure, but... never put influenza down as the underlying cause of death and yet that’s what we are being asked to do here."
Payouts?
Right now Medicare has determined that if you have a COVID-19 admission to the hospital they pay $13,000. If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator, they get $39,000; three times as much. – So hospitals get a pretty chunk of that, that they won’t be getting if its not listed as COVID 19.
_________________________________________________________________________________________________
CDC Website
Read the actual CDC website. It's not just about fiddling with the death certificate. Look at the case and death counts. Last week the CDC changed the way they determine those counts. Now they are adding "probable" cases and deaths by means of using "epidemiological" and "clinical" evidence, but WITHOUT an actual positive covid test. Read that again. NO positive covid test. It's all there right on their website under "about this data." Is this scientific? One thing for sure is it creates doubt as to the actual numbers. We saw a spike last week right after the CDC changed its reporting manner. Now how do we know whether the increasing numbers are actually tested positive or not? One thing this does is delay states getting to the gate for reopening under Phase One.
If it’s highly suspected you can list it. This is why stats will include margin of error. These tests were taking almost a week to come back, or sometimes patients died before they could be tested. Families can’t collect bodies unless form is filled out, they typically want them in 24 hours.
Why doesn’t CDC base its seasonal flu mortality estimates only on death certificates that specifically list influenza?
From cdc website:
Seasonal influenza may lead to death from other causes, such as pneumonia, congestive heart failure, or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. It has been recognized for many years that influenza is under-reported on death certificates and patients aren’t always tested for seasonal influenza infection, particularly the elderly who are at greatest risk of seasonal influenza complications and death.
Some deaths – particularly among the elderly – are associated with secondary complications of influenza (including bacterial pneumonia). Influenza virus infection may not be identified in many instances because influenza virus is only detectable for a short period of time and/or many people don’t seek medical care until after the first few days of acute illness. For these and other reasons, statistical modeling strategies have been used to estimate seasonal flu-related deaths for many decades. Only counting deaths where influenza was included on a death certificate would be a gross underestimation of seasonal influenza’s true impact.
____________________________________________________________________
So, In a nation of 345 million, how many people might die on any given day had not there been a today's COVID conditions, now called pandemic. Approximately the same amount of deaths, it seems to eb…
1 Comment : This article is misleading, and it erodes trust. There were likely cases missed in the beginning when we were only supposed to test people who got back from China or had a sick contact. The data is accurate enough to be actionable.
Is eroding trust of money motivated industries bad? Say what?
I think this is a hard time, but we need to stick together I agree.
Lets all agree to disagree and love each other anyway right where we are-- otherwise there is no unity.
________________________________________________________________________________
This is not about a fight, fear, or an enemy.
it's about seeing how our current choices empower the world we have today, and how new choices remove that power entirely.
So, we have a choice. We can panic and get upset with every totalitarian - looking action being taken, or we can see that every proposed or taken action is furthering to wake people up and furthering to provide tools that we can share with people to get them to question - do we want to continue to comply with the world as it is?
It's a choice. Not a right or wrong, or good or bad, simply a choice.
Will we continue to comply or seek a broader way?
_________________________________________________________________
This is not about a fight, fear, or an enemy.
it's about seeing how our current choices empower the world we have today, and how new choices remove that power entirely.
So, we have a choice. We can panic and get upset with every totalitarian - looking action being taken, or we can see that every proposed or taken action is furthering to wake people up and furthering to provide tools that we can share with people to get them to question - do we want to continue to comply with the world as it is?
It's a choice. Not a right or wrong, or good or bad, simply a choice.
Will we continue to comply or seek a broader way?
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